Sunday, May 12, 2019

Was PapaD set up ?

Updated,

5.12.19 @ 7:38 am:

It looks like this ( yesterday's update) checks out.  Downer spoke to Elizabeth Dibble, the Deputy Chief of Mission, US Embassy, London UK.    Downer is a politician as well as Diplomat.

By the way, was any of this background info on Downer and Dibble in the Mueller Report?  If it was, I don't remember seeing it.  I need to check that out.

8:52 am:

It bears mentioning that Downer took his recollection of the May discussion with PappaD to Dibble, after he heard about the alleged hack into the DNC servers, which was about DNC emails.  Those emails weren't about Hillary, per se.  The point being the rather tenuous relationship between the elements of the collusion / conspiracy case being "investigated".


9:43 am:

The Mueller Report is a bit vague.  It is already listed in this post, in a part down below, what PappaD that got him charged with an offense.   Here's something of a background on what Mueller investigated:

"thousands of emails", Mifsud denies doing this


PappaD charged with making false statement in Jan 2017 FBI interview

Discrepancies exist here.  Why did PappaD refuse to go to trial?  That is something of a mystery at this point.  Based on what can be seen here, the case against PappaD wasn't iron clad, or even very good.  Mueller isn't showing something and PappaD may not be disclosing something.  But it didn't add up to a conspiracy charge, since Mueller couldn't find one.

A set up?  Maybe.  But there are too many questions remaining to say. 


5.11.19 @ 4:56 pm:

Here's another tidbit obtained from Dan Bongino's youtube video.   The Australian Diplomat who mentions the PapaD conversation about dirt on Hillary, went through political channels, as opposed to intelligence channels.  Bongino observes that Downer's move was a political move, not a counter  -intelligence move.  He should have gone to the Australian intelligence service FIRST with this information.


5:18 pm:

It is worth pointing out further that she ( who? vague ) didn't go through Australian diplomatic channels to the American diplomatic channel in Australia, but she talked to the American diplomat in the UK.

Why???????  Why would you talk to somebody in the UK??????

5.6.19:

PapaD looks like an easy mark.  Evidently, it was PapaD who thought that Mifsud was Russian intel.  That's because of a conversation he had with his wife about it.  She was the one who related to PapaD that Hillary had dinner with Mifsud.

Easy mark for a scammer.  Sadly.  This guy must have had "sucker" painted on his forehead.


5.4.19:

1 pm:

I might be a little behind on this story.  There are others on this hot and heavy.   There may be an
investigation ongoing in Italy.  Bongino had PapaD on his show yesterday, and I might have embedded it here, but for the previous link, why do that?  PapaD mentioned the Italian newspaper Il Foglio, which is reporting on it.  It's in Italian, so the translation is a bit of a pain, and I might get bogged down there.  ( there's a quote down at the end of this update from the newpaper )

I might add my bit here with a snippet from the Mueller "investigation".  I suspect that they could have found Mifsud if they wanted to badly enough.  They claimed that Mifsud slipped away from them after lying to them.  Then, that contradiction what the cause of PapaD's obstruction, because they could have challenged him more if they knew where he was.  Mifsud hasn't gone anywhere, really.  How hard did they look?


Quote:  (translation from il foglio newspaper :  Mifsud is afraid for his life, he says: )

Rome. "Mifsud is not a Russian spy, he is a victim. He hid and is silent because under threat. He's still in danger. " And then: "It is Vincenzo Scotti who asked him to manage the dinner with Papadopoulos. But he never talked about Clinton's emails ". And again: "His friends at Link Campus organized him a place outside Rome to hide in November / December 2017 and have been in contact with him at least until January ...


That was the contradiction that Mueller claims that he wanted to clear up.  But Mifsud was conveniently out of country by then, and couldn't be found... or so they say.


11:15 am:

Reports from the New York Times, and now this one from the National Review, confirms that there were spies working on the so-called Russian collusion case during the 2016 election.  In a closed door session, testimony was heard on the matter.

It is not in doubt.  There can be no denying this now.


8:30 am:

Was PapaD set up?  Seems like a rhetorical question at this point.  The answer goes like this: does a wild bear poop in the woods?  Maybe even on San Fran's streets, so I've heard.

At CTH last nite, I was reading how they did it.  They used a young woman, but this woman was mentioned rather obliquely by the the Mueller bunch so as to make it appear that Downer got the info from PapaD, but it was this gal, who is not supposed to exist.  In other words, she was a spy.

Was PapaD set up?  You bet your sweet bippy.

Come to think of it, Mueller may be involved in the FISA about queries scandal.  This illegal activity started on his watch at the FIB when he was director.  So Mueller had a vested interest in the outcome of the investigation.  If he gets connected to that abuse, it may well be the motivation for this fraudulent "investigation".

5.2.19:

A leak from within the FIB claims responsibility for sending a spy to go after PapaD.  But PapaD doesn't think it was FIB.   He thinks it was CYA.

The plot get thicker.  Or something like that.  I don't know plots.  Either way, it's bad.

4.30.19:

It seems that on CTH that I've read something about Stefan Halper.  Just finished reading Mueller's report on PapaD.  According to Mueller, PapaD gave false information about his meetings with a guy named Mifsud and a couple Russians.

Mifsud was talking up the dirt to PapaD that he learned about with respect to the Russians.  He told PapaD that he had this dirt on Clinton, and it seems that PapaD took the bait.  Evidently, there was a meeting that was being planned, but this meeting never took place, according to the Report.

Based on my memory of the CTH article on Mifsud and a connection to Stefan Halper, I did a search on the name, and found this article.   The article says the following:

George Papadopoulos appears to have been targeted by three individuals with ties to British and/or U.S. Intelligence.
  • Joseph Mifsud
  • Alexander Downer
  • Stefan Halper  
end quote

a few notes:

Mifsud talks up the dirt on Clinton just after PapaD gets his job with the Trump campaign.  According to this link, Mifsud is a UK agent, not Russian.

PapaD and Downer was supposed to have met at a chance encounter at a bar.  The author of the linked article (upper link) has doubts about that.  Downer sought the meeting.  This meeting was supposedly the source of the counter intelligence investigation because PapaD mentions the "dirt" on Clinton.

Halper seemed to favor Clinton, yet offered to help Trump.  Curious kind of "help".  Halper might have a history of dirty tricks.  Halper is said here to be one of the authors of "Crossfire Hurricane", which was purportedly set up in the wake of the PapaD's disclosures of "dirt" on Hillary.

PapaD speculated that Downer/Halper meeting was a spy operation.  Downer is an Australian diplomat.

The piece concludes that Halper was a FBI source.  In other words, the young PapaD was set up.  Mifsud plants the story about "dirt", and Downer hears about it at a "chance meeting at a bar".  That gives the FBI the chance to say that this was a counter intelligence investigation.  But was it really?

As for the Mueller report, here's the beef against PapaD:

Mifsud denied knowing about Clinton dirt, report says he lied about seeing PapaD after introducing him to Polonskaya
If PapaD was set up, then the PapaD investigation was bogus.


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