Election nears and discussion heats up

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Excerpts:

• I was at a ballroom dance event in Harrisburg tonight and went to dinner at the restaurant there. As luck would have it sitting across from me was a family Mom, Dad, and two young adults...perhaps their kids. I overhear the conversation.
• I am listening to this and couldn’t keep my mouth shut.
• My responses as calmly as i could was to ask about Benghazi ...no reply.
• I asked him where he works....he works for the labor department...gee fancy that.
• Anyhow the conversation died down. They stopped paying attention to me.

Comment:

It may be a mistake to argue with someone who has a strong opinion one way or another.  It is very likely to lead nowhere.  Yet, minds can be changed.  I know that mine has over the years.  I used to be for gun control and choice.  Not anymore.  I used to believe in global warming.  Not anymore.

One thing that you can say to these people when they claim to think for themselves is what this guy asked in this article--- where do you get your news?  The answer, if it were honest, would probably be that the man listens to left-wing slanted news.

The man said he worked for the labor department.  An important tell.

You can't argue on the basis of logic, reason, and evidence with someone who gets his money from the source that tells him what he should think.

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post.  It goes deeper to something more fundamental about human nature.  Much has been made of Romney's 47% comment.  This is the example of it right here.  No matter what the facts are, this man is going to vote for the people who signs his paychecks.

What is the answer?  I think the answer to this problem is to get to first principles.  Which are:

1. Accountability--- if you approve of Obama's record, vote for him.  If you don't, vote him out.  Obama promised more jobs than what he has delivered.  Do you approve of this?  He can't blame this failure all on Republicans.  He had a large majority in Congress for his first two years.  Republicans couldn't stop him.  That's why ObamaCare was passed.  ObamaCare was more important than jobs.  Why?
2. Bill of Rights---  Obama attacked the First Amendment after Benghazi.  Now, he has changed his story.  There's a man in prison, who made the video that Obama claimed caused the Benghazi attack.  Would this man be in prison if he had made a pro-Islamic video?  Or an anti-Christian video?  No, he is in prison because he made an anti-Islam movie.  Do we have the right to free speech or not?
3. History--- Obama has made much about his ending of the two wars he inherited.  But don't forget how these two wars started.  Is Obama saying that we were to blame for these two wars?  Is it the same as with the Benghazi attacks?  Is Benghazi the same as when far leftists were blaming us for being attacked on 9/11/2001?  There were some far leftists who said that the victims of 9/11 were like Eichmann of the Third Reich.  Do supporters of Obama believe this?  Or what do they believe?  Because it appears that the left who supports Obama really does believe we deserved the attack in Benghazi as well as on 9/11/2001.